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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Aspius, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. j.p.

    j.p. Well Liked Berserker

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    Define... worse. Because as a movie Death Note wasn't especially good but it was at least competent. The sets were fine, the acting was fine, the makeup for Ryuk was on fucking point. It was resoundingly okay-ish. The problem was they took everything that made it Death Note and did the polar opposite for no conceivable reason. Last Airbender and Dragon Ball are probably objectively worse as films, but Death Note was painful since they put real effort into completely fucking it up.
     
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    But did it win at the Golden Raspberry Awards?

    The film swept the Golden Raspberry Awards in 2010, with five "wins" including Worst Picture; the film is sometimes considered one of the worst ever made.

    That is for last airbender.

    Though putting in effort to fuck something up sounds like they need an award.
     
  3. j.p.

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    Well... now I just don't know. Does beating out Birdemic lend legitimacy to Last Airbender's sheer awfulness, or does it detract from the credibility of the Razzies?
     
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    Birdemic can at least be ironically funny. The Last Airbender is just painful to watch.
     
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    And thankfully, Shamilama ding-dong's career has yet to recover.



    To be fair, he does seem like a pretty nice guy. I just wish he wasn't so ham-fisted with his writing/directing.

    And I would argue that Lady In the Water is still worse than all of these previously mentioned films.
     
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    I find it difficult to believe that anyone could watch the Last Airbender and consider him to be a genius, even if they had absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about the original Avatar series. I mean, moron decides that the neutered firebenders (since apparently it makes sense to neuter this worldwide threat by making them unable to bend without a source of fire present, even though that has never been shown in the show or even intimated) decide that they're just going to go ahead and imprison their most potent rivals on the source of their power, and miraculously they're going to be powerless until someone else comes along to inspire them. It's not like they don't have the technology to build a steel prison on the ocean :p
     
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    hmm. Actually all the other benders do need their element nearby to bend. I mean the air has air around it. But the water has to have water (or blood). Earth does need earth. So I think the fire benders do normally need fire but in the show they didn't because of the comet drawing near or something.

    Never mind. Looked it up and firebending is unique in that they can generate the element themselves. Guess they don't need fire nearby because of volcanoes, the sun, fire of their soul, stars, other celestial objects.
     
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    Fire comes from heat, without heat we die, so odds are the benders are just manipulating the heat to generate fire. Of course there's a number of other possible methods, but this one strikes a chord, also explains why electricity is so difficult. Very different concept than just rubbing molecules together.
     
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    Well technically heat is just one part of the fire triangle. You need to have the other 2 parts to have fire. 1 (oxygen) isn't a problem. But what's the fuel? I dont think anger counts as a fuel.
     
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    I thought firebending involved channeling emotion(s) and/or some sort of inner energy. Would that count?
     
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    methane. :p


    But really, the fire doesn't stick without the fuel, so firebenders might be just jumping that bridge, it usually takes a lot more to move a rock than tweenage willfulness and an angry foot stomp, but there you go.
     
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    Watchin' the live action Bleach. It's a mixed bag.

    The good:
    • Grand Fisher has a decent Japanese horror movie thing going
    • The fight with the hooligans who knocked over the kid's flowers, and the way they compressed Ichigo and Chad's relationship into about ten seconds and actually successfully pulled that shit off
    • The interaction between the Kurosaki family, most of all what a large ham the guy playing Isshin is
    • The interaction between Ichigo and his friends, most of all Keigo constantly trolling everybody
    • Ichigo figuring out what happened to his Mom
    • Ichigo vs Renji is some quality wire-fu, and Zabimaru is even pretty good (so long as it's moving)
    The bad:
    • Woof, that English dub
    • Ho, God, that fucking hollow CGI
    • Indecisive Ichigo suuuuucks
    • Sentimental Ichigo is even worse
    • It's an hour long and they tried to do the thing with the hollow bait and the thing with Grand Fisher and the thing with Byakuya is here now and the thing where Urahara trains Inoue and Chad and all of it gets like two damned minutes
    • Any scene that they didn't hit out of the park they completely blew
    • Rukia's cell phone is like a freaking kegel egg instead of a kitty or a bunny or something like that
    • I know a lotta this stuff is in the story and is no small part of what made Bleach Bleach but guys you really do not have time to waste on crap like Konsou and Urahara's shop
    • Ichigo's training montage wasn't ever a thing and didn't need to become a thing and definitely didn't need to get that weirdly rapey
    • Too much explaining, too little crazy supernatural sword fighting
    • Byakuya makes a great anti-villain but a lousy actual villain
    • The way Chad is not actually in this damned movie despite setting him up so effortlessly well
    The fuck?
    • Renji's a Kuchiki now?
    • Is Inoue brooding? WHY IS INOUE BROODING!?
    All in all it's not the worst thing ever, but it coulda been a lot better if it were just a little more focused.
     
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    I thought it was a serviceable adaptation, but I doubt I'll ever bother watching it again.
     
  14. j.p.

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    Yeah it's not awful or anything. If the goal was to adapt the entire first arc to a 70-minute film it succeeds as well as can be expected since god damn is that a lotta ground to cover. I bet they'd have been better off just making a coherent story out of the Grand Fisher stuff and leaving the rest for possible sequels though.
     
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    Describing Father as a plot-device is pretty fitting. His character doesn't work or is really able to exist outside of the story and setting of FMA. He's there to teach what happens when you try to bypass the equivalent exchange.
    Him getting rid of his "sins" and how they die later is also very amusingly symbolic as all of their death are very ironic. Wrath dying in peace, Gluttony being devoured, Lust being killed by handsome "hot" man etc.
     
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    I want more FMA movies about Edward in the other dimension (where science is the main thing and alchemy doesn't really exist). But I don't remember if that is based after the original series or brotherhood.
     
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    He ends the original series on a world implied to be Earth around WWI.
     
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    Yeah. One of the movies is partly in both. Someone wants to invade the alchemy world to make Germany stronger. I think its actually sometime between WW I and II.
     
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    Watchin' the new season of the Seven Deadly Sins. Whyyyy do they have power levels now?
     
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