Delta Lance "Trump Cards"

Discussion in 'Lance Threads' started by Skwisgaar, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    if you roll for a second mission, you have to run it no matter the results (too easy to cherry pick otherwise)

    also:
    Two Hetzers isn't bad. Also remember that enemy BV for second mission will still scale with your own (Hetzers not included in calculation)
     
  2. Dihm

    Dihm Speaker of the Word Staff Member Gothi SC Thane

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    In this instance, I'm willing to listen to the mob.

    Gihz, Skwi, Sheo, how do you guys feel?
     
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    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

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    I'm ok for doing another mission (though I'm slightly worried about the condition of my cockpit).
     
  4. gihzmo

    gihzmo Moderator Berserker

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    I am OK as well. I am also a bit concerned about the general state of several of our mechs. Skwi's axeman is still pretty beat up too.

    What are we gaining from pushing it like this? Would it not be better to fall back and repair and rearm?
     
  5. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

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    I guess a good follow-up question is have we taken control of the bandit base that we were moving to?
     
  6. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    no... both alpha and delta have to fight them one more time to push them out. our first missions were fought on the outskirts of the base. this time we will be fighting inside the outpost itself... which means buildings, more cover and lots more turrets.
     
  7. Dihm

    Dihm Speaker of the Word Staff Member Gothi SC Thane

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    I'm wondering if we should Wait and try to get Skwisgaar arm back
     
  8. Sheogoraath

    Sheogoraath Worst Person in the Universe Viking

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    can we replace the arm with our current repair facilities?
     
  9. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    most of alpha is too banged up to do a second mission so i might be joining you guys as a +1 if you want. :D
     
  10. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    "current" facilities is the mobile repair vehicle... and repairs are already complete for this turn.

    In regards to the Outpost, though, it will offer significantly better repair rates than what we've been using (should reduce all repair target rolls by 3, I think).
     
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  11. Skwisgaar

    Skwisgaar XO Thrall

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    Let's do it. I'll take both the Hetzers and keep my Axman in the back until they get taken out. With Magnus helping out we can clear the base and get those repair facilities upgraded that much sooner.
     
  12. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    There is one issue I just remembered though... there are still technically TWO bandit forces in the Zone with us... so I might need to do mine solo and hope the copious amount of artillery I have with me will be enough. :sad:

    There is one other option though... there is a rule that says you can take on two forces at once, but it adds a +20% BV to the enemy for that mission. I could then bring myself and all support units with me into your drop. If we won, we could take out both in a single mission... but it would not be an easy fight.

    Best I do the math on it and show you figures before you decide.
     
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  13. gihzmo

    gihzmo Moderator Berserker

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    I just do not think it is worth the risk at this point. I still have not heard what we gain over waiting until next turn.
     
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    Skwisgaar XO Thrall

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    If we can't clear the zone with an extra mission then it would not be worth it.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    more XP and faster access to the outpost's repair facility... and some extra cash I suppose.
     
  16. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    like i said, still compiling data from our last two missions. better to let me get that done first, take a look, and then decide.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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  18. gihzmo

    gihzmo Moderator Berserker

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    I havent the slightest. Some were destroyed outright, some were partially destroyed. Some the pilot was killed, some were just disabled. I would have assumed all that would be in the megamek logs.
     
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    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

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    As far as I can tell, only 2 that are marked as "destroyed" would be elligible for capture status. By round 11, all but 2 were already dead. One that I'm sure we all remember was stuck on debris up in the top right most corner. I think we just blew that one up outright so as not to have to eject him properly... the other I'm not so sure about. Looking into it now.

    Update:
    The last one in question was obliterated on Turn 11 by a proximal ammo explosion... sorry guys.
    So as far as I can tell, that is 5 convoy vehicles that were captured intact. Still, that's +250k to each of you. Pretty good haul if you ask me.
     
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  20. gihzmo

    gihzmo Moderator Berserker

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    That was the only one. Yes I do remember that one now that you say it. I know there were several where the pilot ejected.. many more than 2.