Gamma Lance "Midnight Oil"

Discussion in 'Lance Threads' started by Skwisgaar, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Thanks for the input all! You guys are awesome! One cask for you fine gents on me:

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    :toast:

    Workin' on a revised idea with your guys' input.
     
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  2. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    Just a little background on the mech:
    The Griffin Vash was a custom one-off design I made for some VIP I can't remember now. Due to circumstances I can't remember, Derak "appropriated" ownership of the mech. The inspiration for the Vash should be obvious (the rocket ports would be arranged like two columns of "buttons" down the center torso) and yeah... it runs a bit hot, but it was purposefully designed to take advantage of the dialing energy output fuction. It was also an experiment with hit and run tactics; jumping out to deal maximum damage when it was most advantageous and then ducking behind cover to cool off. It is definitely not a mech for beginners (not that you are one, of course).

    And yeah... wouldn't blame you at all for wanting something more heat neutral.
     
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  3. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Ok gents, you've all been incredibly helpful, what do you guys think of this long range setup:

    Code:
    Griffin GRF-1N
    
    Mass: 55 tons
    Tech Base: Inner Sphere
    Chassis Config: Biped
    Rules Level: Advanced Rules
    Era: Age of War/Star League
    Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/E-F-E-A
    Production Year: 2492
    Cost: 5,870,057 C-Bills
    Battle Value: 1,655
    
    Chassis: Earthwerks GRF Endo-Steel
    Power Plant: CoreTek 275 Fusion Engine
    Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
    Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
    Jump Jets: Rawlings 55
        Jump Capacity: 150 meters
    Armor: Starshield A Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
    Armament:
        1  ER PPC
        1  LRM-10
        2  Medium Lasers
        1  Guardian ECM Suite
    Manufacturer: Earthwerks Incorporated, Defiance Industries, Kallon Industries
        Primary Factory: Keystone (Earthwerks), Hesperus II (Defiance), Talon (Kallon)
    Communications System: Neil 6000
    Targeting and Tracking System: Octagon Tartrac, System C
    
    ================================================================================
    Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    91 points                3.00
        Internal Locations: 1 HD, 4 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA
    Engine:             Fusion Engine                275                      15.50
        Walking MP: 5
        Running MP: 8
        Jumping MP: 5 Standard
        Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   2.50
    Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
        Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
    Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
    Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
        Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
    Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 161                  9.00
        Armor Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT, 4 LA, 2 RA
        CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50
    
                                                          Internal       Armor    
                                                          Structure      Factor   
                                                    Head     3            9       
                                            Center Torso     18           24      
                                     Center Torso (rear)                  6       
                                               L/R Torso     13           21      
                                        L/R Torso (rear)                  5       
                                                 L/R Arm     9            15      
                                                 L/R Leg     13           20      
    
    ================================================================================
    Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Medium Laser                                 CT        3         1         1.00
    Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1.50
    Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1.00
    LRM-10                                       LT        4         2         5.00
    ER PPC                                       RA        15        3         7.00
    @LRM-10 (12)                                 LT        -         1         1.00
                                                Free Critical Slots: 0
    
    BattleForce Statistics
    MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 17
    5j         3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  5
    Special Abilities: ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1

    Or this range-banded jack of all trades:

    Code:
    Griffin GRF-1N
    
    Mass: 55 tons
    Tech Base: Inner Sphere
    Chassis Config: Biped
    Rules Level: Advanced Rules
    Era: Age of War/Star League
    Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/E-F-E-A
    Production Year: 2492
    Cost: 5,984,757 C-Bills
    Battle Value: 1,733
    
    Chassis: Earthwerks GRF Endo-Steel
    Power Plant: CoreTek 275 Fusion Engine
    Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
    Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
    Jump Jets: Rawlings 55
        Jump Capacity: 150 meters
    Armor: Starshield A Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
    Armament:
        1  ER PPC
        1  SRM-6
        4  Medium Lasers
        1  Guardian ECM Suite
    Manufacturer: Earthwerks Incorporated, Defiance Industries, Kallon Industries
        Primary Factory: Keystone (Earthwerks), Hesperus II (Defiance), Talon (Kallon)
    Communications System: Neil 6000
    Targeting and Tracking System: Octagon Tartrac, System C
    
    ================================================================================
    Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    91 points                3.00
        Internal Locations: 1 HD, 4 LT, 2 RT, 4 LA, 3 RA
    Engine:             Fusion Engine                275                      15.50
        Walking MP: 5
        Running MP: 8
        Jumping MP: 5 Standard
        Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   2.50
    Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             11(22)                    1.00
    Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
    Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
        Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA+LA+H
    Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 179                 10.00
        Armor Locations: 4 LT, 4 RT, 4 LA, 2 RA
        CASE Locations: 1 LT                                                   0.50
    
                                                          Internal       Armor     
                                                          Structure      Factor    
                                                    Head     3            9        
                                            Center Torso     18           27       
                                     Center Torso (rear)                  7        
                                               L/R Torso     13           19       
                                        L/R Torso (rear)                  7        
                                                 L/R Arm     9            18       
                                                 L/R Leg     13           24       
    
    ================================================================================
    Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Medium Laser                                 CT        3         1         1.00
    3 Medium Lasers                              RT        9         3         3.00
    Guardian ECM Suite                           RT        0         2         1.50
    SRM-6                                        LT        4         2         3.00
    ER PPC                                       RA        15        3         7.00
    @SRM-6 (15)                                  LT        -         1         1.00
                                                Free Critical Slots: 1
    
    BattleForce Statistics
    MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 17
    5j         3       3       1       0      2     1   Structure:  5
    Special Abilities: ECM, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
    

    Couple things to note: The long range build loses a bit of armor. The JoA build can only fire the ML/SRM -or- the ERPPC, otherwise apocalypse happens, but it is heat neutral when firing the separate groups.
     
  4. I like that second build a lot. Allows you to snipe while the enemy closes in and keep good brawling capability when they get near. You can always dial back the MLs heat/dmg to 2/4 instead of 3/5 and that will help you fire more often as well. Of course trading 1 ML for another DHS would be ideal but I'm sure there isn't room with the Endo and Ferro together.
     
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  5. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Bigfoot Hirdman

    Alright, we're running low on time for the campaign. Let's pick a time in the next week to drop. I'll be at work until Thursday. Thurs-Sat I'm available all day, except at 11-2 on saturday. Moro, renolts, and Derak what times are good for you?
     
  6. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    I have 2 weeks off class till fall semester starts, so I am 100% free. I'll work around your schedules.
     
  7. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Bigfoot Hirdman

    Alright, just waiting on moro and Renolts then
     
  8. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Oh Renolts, I have 2.6 mil left over after my refit; I'll lend you as much of that as you'd like for a new mech, unless you got that sorted out already?
     
  9. Moro Ibex

    Moro Ibex Moderator Hirdman

    I am off on vacation from the 10th - 23rd. Just give me a night and a time. Then remember to tell me at least twice...cause i smoke and such.
     
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  10. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Maybe we can pick a time and relay the info to Renolts since he hasn't posted yet? I'd like to throw out Friday evening, around 6-7PM CST, or if people are busy Friday, perhaps Saturday afternoon around 2-3PM CST?
     
  11. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Bigfoot Hirdman

    Either of those cst works for me
     
  12. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    Friday I'm busy and Saturday I work until 7pm EST. After taht is fine though. Thursday is also good.
     
  13. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    Alrighty, how 'bout 7 PM CST (8PM EST) Saturday evening, or 1-2 PM CST Sunday afternoon?
     
  14. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    Saturday might be better than Sunday. Sunday is Alpha's second drop (forgot about that) and I HATE having to do two in one day. If someone wants to GM for your drop on Sunday, however, they will be my best friend for the weekend. :)
     
  15. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

  16. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

  17. Tzeentch

    Tzeentch Bigfoot Hirdman

    Derak, your rolls are missing.
     
  18. MagnusEffect

    MagnusEffect Administrator Staff Member Jarl SC Huscarl

    need a personal roll from derak and someone needs to roll for scrounge
     
  19. Moro Ibex

    Moro Ibex Moderator Hirdman

    Wont be here saturday or sunday (15-16) but maybe sunday night
     
  20. Derak Darksun

    Derak Darksun Well Liked Thrall

    BAM!
    [​IMG]

    Hmm, I could probably swing tomorrow evening around 8PM CST, if Friday, Saturday, and Sunday afternoon are all out. Sunday night I have plans, sadly. Otherwise we could shoot for early next week.
     
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